Saturday, October 07, 2006

Chet, the Neo-Nazi from the American Heartland posts antisemitic garbage.
In his latest blog entry, he posts a developing story from CBS back in 2004 that turned out to be inaccurate. What really happened was that a pentagon insider gave to employees of AIPAC information about an Iranian plot to kidnap Israelis. This was done for no renumeration. The AIPAC members supposedly alerted the Israeli Embassy about the plot.

Our ne0-nazi, Chet, is upset that Americans are allowed to be concerned with saving lives if those lives are Jewish.

Poor sick bastard. It's a wonder that Chet can sleep at night. Unless he has Hitler singing him a lullaby.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am sure Chet sleeps very well. At least he can thread an intelligent comment together.

5:20 PM, October 07, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Hate mongers sleep very well. I'm sure you do also.

6:11 PM, October 07, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, I don't. I spend many sleepless nights wondering what I can do to improve this screwed up world. And if you had not been so defamatory towards these people on your blog that I am sure I would have asked what I can do to help. I can not tolerate people talking about one another like this. You should be embarrassed and so should the others who leave derogatory comments instead of suggestions to aid in the peace process.
It is the hatred that you have on your blog that causes average folks like me to turn off and think....fight your own damn battles and leave the rest of the world out of it.

10:04 PM, October 07, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

These people are hate mongers who need to be exposed.

Average people like you need to learn the truth and not be led by the nose by neo-nazis like Chet and Karin.

4:00 AM, October 08, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I see from your blog is solicitation for fear and hatred. I don't see anywhere on this entire blog where you are intelligently expressing yourself and the concerns you and your countrymen face. I see nothing more than infantile belittling and posturing without any attempt to educate for positive. All I read is a feeble attempt by some other middle easterner to frighten the hell out of anyone who doesn't believe what you you need me to slow down and repeat any of the words..I know they are kind of big for one with so little intelligence.

8:09 PM, October 08, 2006  
Anonymous me said...

Salam & hi,

And I think chet is a very very very nice person. being against the illegal occupation is not being anti-semite. it's being just. if anyone accepts injustice, how will one answers God?

even Ariel Sharon has passed his time so will you. so will everybody. if you look to the hereafter, you will fear committing injustice.

Anyway I guess IbrahimAv, I hope you will find love one day. i kinda wonder why you act this way? what happened in your life to be like this? is there something bitter in your past? tell us. what is feeding it?

may God Guides you to peace & truth. just people love other people - semite or non semites.

chet is a very nice person.

7:20 PM, October 09, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Chet is an antisemite. That he is against Israel retaining the land it won during the defensive 6 day war, does not make him one. Nor does it have anything to do with justice.

Chet is just an antisemite who has expressed his antisemitism in many ways.

By the way, world opinion is not truth, just opinion. There must be a sovereign nation for land to be occupied. As there has never been a Palestinian nation, other than Jordan, it is not 'occupied' land.

Legally, in accordance with International law, the land status is in dispute. Israel legally controls the land until the dispute is settled.

12:16 AM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, so Israel "won the land in the six day war". Yeah, that sure makes it right and moral does it not? Yeah, Israel drove out almost one million Palestinians from their land after they managed to gain the sympathies of Lord Balfour and Justice Brandeis, two men who felt those who lived on the land for generations should be driven out, massacred, whatever it takes to create a so called Jewish state founded by non-practicing Jewish Zionists, POLITICAL, not JEWISH. Yeah, there is no such thing as Jews for Peace and the many Jewish people who see this as a black mark on their religion which is not sanctioned whatsover by Yahweh. Yeah, everyone who speaks against this is "anti-semitic" when Arabs and Palestinians are Semites too and you only hide behind this so called term to protect yourselves because you want sympathy for the holocost which WAS a travesty and then commit your own holocost on the Palestinians. Yeah, you post pictures and threaten two people, Karin and Chet in this menacing manner which shows you just for what you are, MENACES who wish only to threaten and call people liars rather than converse in a civilized manner. You people have shown yourselves as hate-mongerers without even an arguement other than to threaten. If you have facts on your side, why not state them rather than resorting to harassment tactics?
May God somehow find his way into all of your hearts. You are a disgrace to yourselves and to ALL people of your faith who wish for peace.

8:42 AM, October 10, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Israel winning the land in a defensive war allows Israel to control the land until peace negotiations are concluded.

That is what is legal under International law.

Israel did not drive out nearly 1 million Arabs. The two mentioned gentlemen did not advocate your desires for the Jewish people.

That you are an antisemite has nothing to do with your critic of israel.

By the way, there is no such thing as semitism, but antisemitism is a term that was invented by a german social scientist to describe hatred of the Jews as a people. Therefore, your arab friends are not covered in the definition.

But your arab friends are most likely antisemites, or they are amazingly as stupid as you seem to be, based on your ignorant post.

By the way, I have not threatened the nazis Chet and Karin.

3:34 PM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Israel winning land in a defensive war?
Go back to your Nuremburg Principals. Israel initiated a PRE-EMPTIVE war which is illegal per international law. For THIRTY-NINE years Israel has held a "beligerent occupation" over the West Bank and Gaza. Their buddies the US have vetoed some 40 UN resolutions against them. Peace? Israel has used every excuse under the sun to prevent peace. In the first place, do they REALLY think that the 800,000 Palestinians disposessed of their land would go singing tra-la-la into the sunset? Then, they OCCUPY their territory BELIGERENTLY for that long? You see, they can control the land but they cannot possibly annex it because it would upset the population balance of Zionists to Arabs. How much land can they control in order to provide a "buffer zone" for peace?
And dear Ibrahamav, you have not addressed the issue of Jews against Zionism or Naturei Karta, TRUE TORAH Jews who see this POLITICAL entity called Zionism as a plague on their own faith. And there you go again calling Karin and Chet nazis. Just what are you accomplishing by calling them something which they are not. You yourself above state that being anti-semitic has nothing to do with criticizing Israel. Being anti-semitic, as you define it, is being anti-Jewish. It is YOU who have the problem and continue to mince words in an attempt to confuse your readers. Those who wish for peace, Muslims, Christians and True Torah Jews are UNITED in their disdain for Zionism. Get that straight and cease and desist from calling Karin and Chet nazis who WERE anti-semitic per your own defintion. And furthermore, calling people "ignorant" is another feeble attempt at discrediting your advesaries. Hit the books and come back with something factual, THEN there is something worth discussing rather than your posts here NOT giving any information but rather attacking others. No such thing as "semitism", please look no further than your dictionary to find that it refers to a group of people speaking "semititc languages" which include Hebrew AND Arabic.

4:24 PM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you call it? You have posted pictures of these two individuals and posted hateful comments about them without permission. You have asked other readers to go and spread the same hateful vile information on their sites calling them thratening names that may actually insight violence on your behalf. Everytime a bigot like you spews their hatred, it is a threat. Chet and Karin are not public figures and therefore it is actually illegal to have their pictures on ANY of your documents without their written permission.( And, yes the international laws apply)
Is there a reason you don't have your picture on your blog? Perhaps you are afraid that if people saw you and recognized you with your bigotted, prejudiced opinions, you would lose what you may have acrued...perhaps even your job or your family. Are you willing to risk it?
Fair is fair...put your face out there where others can slander your name and your slanted hateful opinions with your picture all over the world. And when you get sought out, and God forbid, harmed, you will understand that yes, you are insighting violence.

4:35 PM, October 10, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Go back to your Nuremburg Principals. Egypt declared war on Israel when it closed shipping lanes. Israel waited until the last possible moment before being forced to fight back.

For 19 years, Egypt and Jordan maintained a festering illegal occupation of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza. Israel liberated those lands, built hospitals, Schools and infrastructure.

That there is a cult of Jews, comprising less than 1/10 of 1 percent of the Jewish people thinking that Israel has it wrong does not preclude correctly identifying Karin and Chet as Nazis.

5:04 PM, October 10, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

By the way, both Karin and Chet post information designed to inspire hatred of Jews.

They have been outed. Learn to live with it.

And exactly who is "Anonymous" that talks about 'fair'?

5:06 PM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous,you are wasting you,r time with this zinezet caward.

5:30 PM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO, no now Mr. Ibrahamav. Karin and Chet do NOT post information designed to inspire hatred of Jews. Please present some proof of that because it is Zionists who they along with many faithful Jews, Christians and Muslims disdain. Now there you go again twisting the facts and calling them by names which are based in NO reality. You again have failed to answer my question, what do YOU hope to gain by your actions? Have Chet and Karin threatened to put "Jews" in concentration camps OR shown disrespect for the Jewish faith? Please, with all due respect, provide proof that they are speaking against people of a faith ONLY and not those of a faith who are ALSO Zionists rather than True Torah Jews. You see, I personally am a Catholic, but if I were Hitler I would ALSO be a nazi.

5:35 PM, October 10, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Of course you are wasting your time. You have no facts at your disposal. That makes your argument weak as water.

And why does one need to make the threat of placing Jews in ovens required to name the Chets and Karins of the world Nazi?

7:28 PM, October 10, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please Mr. Ibrahamov, look up the term "nazi" in your dictionary. It refers to a member of the German Socialist Party brought to power under Hitler which did carry out a policy of extermimation of Jews, gypsies, gays and many others. Have Karin or Chet advocated the extermination of Jews? Do you need to resort to such an extreme word in order to label those who do not agree that Zionism is a humane policy? The FACT remains, Ashkenazi Jews from around the world were enlisted to move to a land which they had NO tie to in any farfetched stretch of the word to create a JEWISH state upon a land where OTHERS were living for GENERATIONS. Now Mr. Ibrahamov, I happen to be an American. If all of a sudden the supporters of Azatlan all got the support of a powerful nation and uprooted me from my home, a home my ancestors have only lived in for the last 150 years as opposed to generations and generations, I would NOT be a happy camper. Lets'just say the whole southwest was overtaken, all of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California or let's just say a tiny portion of it the same size as Israel. And those Azatlanders committed massacre after massacre in order to either kill me or scare me out of my own land, again, I would NOT be a happy camper. Then, if the neighboring states decided that the usurpers needed to be dealt with and then the usurpers took MORE land and created an OVERWELMINGLY oppressive occupation in which those occupied were at the total mercy of the usurpers, I think the Azatlanders just MIGHT be facing some opposition. What do you think Mr. Ibrahmaov. You have yet to state your nationality. Come out, come out, wherever you are and meet us all on the playing field.

7:56 PM, October 10, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Please look up the common usage of Nazi. It has overidden its original use and now includes those such as Karin and Chet. They go far beyond a belief that zionism may not be the right thing.

By the way, all Jews have a tie to Israel.
And Jews have lived continuously on the land that is now called Israel for over 3000 years.

2:45 AM, October 11, 2006  
Anonymous Abe Foxman said...

People may call Nazis gay- that is completely incorrect. They were homophobic, racist, facist order who believed that that the Earth was for a single perfect race- the Ayrians (sp.)- and that anyone who did not belong to this race was sub-human and treated as such. They were christians, and Hitler believed that the Ayrians were the race favoured by God and so they could not fail in their attempts to control the world.

Clowns like Karin, Chet easily fit into the above group. Muslims make up the new alliance of the Aryans. Same belief system and political points of view. Ie; tyrannical oppression and death of anyone they choose to be sub-human.

3:56 AM, October 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr, Ibrahamov,
Do you believe that it is your right as a Zionist to create a state for yourselves and take over other people's land that have ACTUALLY lived there for generations? That their family ties CONSEQUETIVELY for often times 1000 or more are less than an Ashkenazi Jew whose family has NOT lived on that land for the last 2000 years? Is there any way for you to see that they might not like you very much for thinking their claim based in sweat and blood is less than yours based on what YOU say in YOUR book is true? I'm just having a hard time getting a handle on this whole idea of yours because as an outsider it somehow just doesn't seem right. It's funny too that you say that Muslims think you are subhuman because it seems to me you are saying that land belongs to you because you are God's favorites. Can you please renumerate for us? Do you think you are favored by God? (ps, I know my history sir and I did not say Nazis were gay, I said they sought to exterminate gays along with other groups of people.

5:58 AM, October 11, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Jews purchased and populated the land. Jews have lived on the land for over 3000 years. Many jews on the land have "family ties CONSEQUETIVELY for often times 1000 or more are less than an Syrian, Egyptian, Morrocan, Turkish, or Yemenite, pretending to be Palestinian, whose family has NOT lived on that land for the last 2000 years?

You're having a hard time because you have a problem. That problem is not a lein on the Jewish people.

4:58 PM, October 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Ibrahamov, your clever twisting of facts is utterly amazing. So someone whose family HAS lived on this land for 1000 years is LESS entitled to it than some Ashkanzi Jew who was converted generations ago and then claims the land due to a Book written by men from the faith their forefathers adopted OR left the lands 2000 years ago. THAT sir, is called inhouse legitimization of one's own delusions of grandeur!!

7:00 PM, October 11, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

Having been a tenent farmer for 50 generations on a piece of land does not infer ownership of the land.

How delusional of you to think it does.

As for some particualr Jew having been related to a convert from 500 CE has nothing to do with it, except in your racist mind.

8:10 PM, October 11, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just so you understand, these people are writing in their names as anonymous because they live in fear of what vile things you will post all over their blogs or what pictures you will factlessly post smearing their good reputations. I certainly am not willing to risk my own safety and the safety of my family to one as sick and demented as you. I came to this site initially to try and understand your anger, but lost total respect and interest when I saw what you have done to these people.
Again, I ask you, where is your picture...fair is fair. If you can slander a person for their beliefs, it seems only fair that the same apples to you.

11:21 PM, October 11, 2006  
Blogger Ibrahamav said...

They live in fear? Just as Palestinains who state that they must negotiate with Israel with no pre-conditions, and then are murdered by their fellow Palestinians?

Or are they merely neo-nazis and Islamo-fascists trying to spread myth in order to increase antisemitism in the world? Karin and Chet are two such who do. Mary Rizzo and Rowan Berkeley are another set of antisemites.

If someone wished them harm because of the evil and hatred they post, it wouldn't come from those who witness their hatred on my blog. But you knew that.

2:15 AM, October 12, 2006  

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